Benefit Tourney On June 5?????

[vocs24]

June 5th will be an ADO Benefit Fundraiser Tourney at Shuckers to help our players going to the Houston National. We have decided that all 4 ADO Nationals will have a benefit tourney to help our players with the expense for the weekend at Nationals while representing the FWDA! Good Luck and look for the flyer soon!

Can someone please tell me where this information is? It is not posted on the Website besides this email sent by Natalie 2 weeks ago. I have called Krista 2times without response. I was told by Natalie on the phone that this Tourney was CK's resposibiliyt and then when i spoke to CK he said it was Krista's job, I really dont CARE who's JOB it really is I just want someone to take resposibility and get some flyers out and I dont know maybe get DDA and MDA involved also. Just a Thought. Its 2 weeks before this tournament can someone please let the rest of the ASSOCIATON know. Thats right we are an ASSOCIATION not just a BOARD who makes decisions without letting the rest of us know whats going on. When did anyone VOTE for using $500.00 of the Associations money towards a tournament at the VFW. I really dont know whats going on over at your board meeting but someone needs to step up and take a BETTER CONTROL over things. Seems to me we should be working together as a ASSOCIATION not the BOARD working as if they are the only ones that matter. Heather/Chris and Adam

[adidas]

Why does anyone have to wait on FWDA? This is not an FWDA event, this is an ADO event. There are players going who are not members of the FWDA. Why doesn't Volcanos pick up FWDA's slack and just have a fund raising tournament there. We at least know they would of already been prepared and it would of been set into motion by now.

June 5th will be an ADO Benefit Fundraiser Tourney at Shuckers to help our players going to the Houston National. We have decided that all 4 ADO Nationals will have a benefit tourney to help our players with the expense for the weekend at Nationals while representing the FWDA!

Who decided this? Who gets to decide this? Is this for only players who are a member of FWDA? Is that a current member or past members also?

[pelligrini]

When did anyone VOTE for using $500.00 of the Associations money towards a tournament at the VFW.
$300 was approved at a board meeting and another $200 was approved by the floor of the Summer CPB. The board didn't even know about the additional money for the Mystery out as it was an idea I had at the spur of the moment. I brought it up during new business. It was not entirely a board decision. Being that the originating post is signed on behalf of Volcano's management maybe if you had a rep at the meeting you would have known this.

I feel that the people going to the ADO events ought to take on the majority of the responsibility and organization for the benefit/s. They are the ones going, and the benefits are in their behalf, they should do most of the work. That's just my opinion.

Along those same lines, I also feel that the folks taking part in the regionals should help out a bit more for getting the event ready. Turnout for setup was poor and I haven't got a clue what teardown is/was like. (I bet I could make a pretty good guess. ;) ) Granted, the FWDA was sorely deficient in asking for help this time, but I sure do wish that there would be more involvement from more members.

[adidas]

I agree, the players going to Nationals should be responsible for running fundraisers. With that said, why is FWDA always trying to have their hand in it? For one, it is not fair for those who qualify outside of FWDA. And it has happened in the past where FWDA hosted a benefit and all of the qualifiers benefited from it except for one because he was from Denton. This also included a DDA member getting a piece of the action despite not being an FWDA member. There should not be different standards for select people. FWDA is notorious for that.

[pelligrini]

With that said, why is FWDA always trying to have their hand in it? Wow, way to kick a gift horse in the mouth.

The FWDA has no obligation what-so-ever to the players of these events, especially those that are not directly from the FWDA. The past few times there has been a benefit run I was under the impression that more then just FWDA players received some funds (which I just confirmed as yes). I didn't follow the details closely, as I am not very involved with the ADO and the associated events. I find it quite atrocious that you would accuse the FWDA of underhanded actions or meddling. These benefits have been run for the sole purpose of aiding the folks qualifying. They were also organized by people who would like to give them a little help. The benefits were also brought up and run as an outside event from the FWDA proper with no official FWDA sanctioning. It’s just some folks doing something to promote the sport of darts.

I see no problem with the FWDA helping to put together a benefit to support these folks who have qualified to go beyond the regionals. I like the idea and think it's a really good thing. If anyone thinks it isn't being run properly; I say step up to the plate and get it done the way you want.

Maybe I just have a bad taste in my mouth from just getting back from tearing down the VFW hall from Saturday’s regionals. Four of us (3 FWDA board members) put up the standards, lights & boards and cleaned up the filthy mess that all the ADO players left.

This also included a DDA member getting a piece of the action despite not being an FWDA member. There should not be different standards for select people. FWDA is notorious for that.Mike,
I don’t know about everyone else, but I will make it a personal point that you do not get a piece of the action. I get a sense of entitlement from your posts, of which I feel you deserve none. Your accusations are unfounded to date, maybe an exception should be made just for you.

[caksings]

Seriously ? I was never informed that it was MY responsibility to organize the ADO benefit tournament. I suggested you contact Krista because she is the FWDA Tournament Director. I was also told that Volcano's would not host the tournament due to issues with the food sales (2 tournaments in less than 30 days with food sold by individuals other than the bar.) I spoke with C, the owner of Shuckers, and she said she would love to host the tournament. She said she will donate 3 cooked briskets and also donate to the payout for the tournament. I'm confused on where this is my responsibility. Some say the FWDA board doesn't do enough for the players; others say we try to involve ourselves too much. Which is it ? :confused: We want to do what is best for the players, and promote our sport. We have 4 FWDA affiliated players that are attending the nationals in Houston. How many of them are currently on a team? For that matter, how many of them played on a team in the Spring? Players seem to want to contribute with lots of complaints rather than with suggestions on how to improve. On that note, many of the people complaining have limited involvement in the association. Some players have mentioned they are considering other associations due to various reasons. Have the other associations contributed to any of the ADO benefit tournaments we have hosted? :confused: As for making decisions as a board, we are doing what is in the best interest of the association and its players. We have board meetings on a regular basis, and we notify the members when they will take place. We would love to have more members attend for this very reason. It seems that if more players would care about the association, and step up to the plate now and then, everyone wouldn't be reading this thread. Instead, everyone would be reading a thread that was written by an active member excited about our players attending the Houston ADO nationals. My phone number is 817-532-2318. Most people have it. My email address is ckdarts@yahoo.com. Most people have it. I never received a call or email regarding the failed attempts to contact our Tournament Director. It would have been nice to receive one, rather than reading this thread on the website. :banghead: This goes back to the lack of communication between the members and the board. We do what we can to communicate association business, but it is difficult to reach the members that are not willing to listen, or just don't care. A wise man once told me that you will catch more flies with honey than vinegar . . . . . . . . . . ;)

[Maria]

The first time a benefit was even done for the players going to Nationals was started by me. The players - Suzie Hall, Andrea Taylor, Rick Eskew, Jason Dutton, Davis Snider, and Christinas Medina - put the word out about it, sold the food plates, ran the raffles and auctions, and ran the tournament, and made food. ALL Players got money to help with the costs of their rooms.
It was put together by the players, not fwda.

That first benefit ran smooth, and generated alot of money. When FWDA saw what we did, they decided they wanted to get involved and help with all of the nationals.

What I am basically seeing is that since FWDA has offered their support, none of the people who qualify are doing anything to help themselves, they expect FWDA to do it all.

Again, if there was more communication between the players that are going, they could've had the word out and everything on pace to make this another good turn out, but THEY dropped the ball and FWDA will get the blame.

Listen, I am not saying FWDA is perfect, but really?

Also, the person from Denton that went last year, did get his money so I don't know where that statement is coming from.

And Actually, now that I'm thinking about was it Jason Dutton, or was it Mike Smith that qualified that year? I can't remember, but whoever it was, was there helping.

[jmdutton3]

I helped out last year ang got raffled off, but I didnt qualify. It just wouldnt feel right to not voice my opinion, so with that I feel that the players who qualify should definitley help sort out the benefit, and I would hope that the rest of us would help support them. Afterall, they are going to represent our association. I also dont understand how something so positive as having benefit tournaments could create such negativity.

[cwhite]

Also, the person from Denton that went last year, did get his money so I don't know where that statement is coming from.

And Actually, now that I'm thinking about was it Jason Dutton, or was it Mike Smith that qualified that year? I can't remember, but whoever it was, was there helping.

It wasn't Jason Dutton or Mike Smith. It was Christian 2 years ago. And by the way Jason and Mike gave him some of the money out of theirs to help him cause he was not included.

[Maria]

OK, in 2008, we had the first benefit tourney for people going to the nationals. Jason, Mike, Christian, Rick, Suzie, Andrea, and Christina were all the players that qualified.

At the end of the tournament, the money was counted, and there was an estimation on what each player would get. 1 person held onto it to hand out in Stamford. Now, if someone didn't get their money, then there's an issue. But why are we hearing about this 2 years later?

There was discussion about not splitting with Christian because he wasn't at the benefit when everyone else was, even the player from DDA. But after a lengthy discussion, it was determined that he probably wasn't aware of the benefit, and no one had his contact info, so they would give him money. Again, I don't know what happened in Stamford, but it was agreed that they would give him something.

Also, I thought the reference about the player from Denton was about the last benefit we had for Conn. in 2009, and I know everyone got their money for that. Christian wasn't one of the players.

[Maria]

The whole point of my first post was to let everyone know that the benefit was run by the players and volunteers, not FWDA. Anything that went right or wrong is on the players, not FWDA

[smadigan]

I do have to agree with Maria, the players that have qualified should be the ones to do the tournament. If you all need the help of the FWDA then you should let us know and we could see what we could do to help.

[JClooney]

I don't get all of this, so I won't post any opinion. I've enjoyed the last two years I've spent in FWDA, but, sadly, that is coming to an end. After this benefit, come say goodbye down the road for my going away party at The Royal Falcon on the circle. I've not met a dart player I don't like, & would love to see you all one last time!

Thanks,
John "Clooney"

[BOBT80]

A Benefit Tournament for players going to Houston? Are you kidding me? It's not a bad idea if your helping out players who can't afford to go or if they are going to a place like Connecticut, where it is more expensive. But to Houston!! The ADO pays for the travel and gives the players $150 when they get there. So basically your collecting money so the players can party while they are there. If dart players don't mind giving their money away for this reason, then more power to them. I just don't see the need for a benefit for this reason. There are too many other good reasons to hold benefits for people who really need help. Actually, I would be embarrassed to take money this way.

[eldarts]

Yeah..

Perhaps Fundraiser is a better word. I hear benefit and think medical expenses, death, charitable work, etc...

Maybe each qualifying player could do half & half pots during league nights leading up to the tourney..good way to raise a little bit of money, with an opportunity for the rest of us to win a little bit of money...

[Maria]

You're right. It should've said fundraiser, not benefit.

We are adding $300.00 to this tournament. The top 4 teams, at least, will get a cash payout.

Money will be raised by doing raffles, selling food, etc.